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terro20013

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18 minutes ago, magicman said:

@CaptainRabbit you MacGuyvered the shit out of that GB lol. I've never seen one made from cardboard

LOL buddy. I did indeed, and as far as I can tell, it works like a champ.

The top window is a plastic poster frame cover. That porthole in the front middle was added when I started using LC, so I can view my tilt. The arm hole covers are coffee bin lids, handles secured by hot glue. That was the latest mod.

I load it up after misting the interior with a bleach solution, (to catch and hold airborne particulate) then I lysol the entire environment, lay a bleached towel over the front, and wait 20 minutes before working.

@El_Piraña this thing is just barely big enough to pack 8 quart jars inside and still be able to manipulate them.

I've done dozens of G2G transfers in there, worked with spore prints/syringes and LC. 

After seeing strobes GB tek

I made a shopping list... but I dunno if I'll ever build it. This thing here was practically free.

Mush Love all.

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That's pretty trick..

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Thanks for the info. Is a still air box a 55 or 60 qt. Clear tote with two hole as big to get your hands through?

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I can't recall the size of my first SAB. It worked ok, but was too small. Once I started putting quart jars inside, I could barely move anything around. I just made a new one, much larger.  

I read a discussion somewhere month ago regarding the ideal size of holes for your arms and concluded that 6 inch diameter holes are best.  If the holes are too small, then the movement of your arms can push/pull air in and out of the box quite a bit. If there is more space around your arms, it reduces the air movement considerably.  If you think about removing your arms from the SAB, it can create a vacuum and pull air in.

be careful cutting the holes, the plastic can crack easily, take my word for it! 

What do you have on hand?  I built mine from a cardboard box and some misc. Junk laying around.. 

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Very creative! I like the door on the side, why didn't I think of something like that?!

 I found small, clear pieces of plastic at Home Depot for very low cost , they keep in the door/window department, makes great viewing windows.

Thank you!

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Ok guys, I'm getting things together for my fit grow, and before u even got started, I thought about how I wouldn't be able to fan and mist from 0700 to about 1700. It's not possible for me to leave work. What I'm asking basically, is it absolutely imperative that I mist and fan every 4 to 6 hours ?

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Sorry forgot to mention that I was wanting to start with the pf cake tek..

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Reality check huh? 

Mist and fan just before leaving to work, as soon as you get home, after dinner, and before bed. Should be fine.

Shew.. that's a load off of my mind.. because I'm really getting excited!! Thanks capt.

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Terro! You are going to Rock this! I can feel it.

Always more than one way to skin a cat!

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Charlie Papazian wrote a series of books designed to help any person learn to successfully brew beer at home. The father of homebrewing.

The preface to every book?

"Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew!"

So you only have one spore syringe for your first grow?

Go for it. Carefully follow the tek and you will be golden.

Relax, don't worry, have a cup of mushroom tea!

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Charlie Papazian wrote a series of books designed to help any person learn to successfully brew beer at home. The father of homebrewing.

The preface to every book?

"Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew!"

So you only have one spore syringe for your first grow?

Go for it. Carefully follow the tek and you will be golden.

Relax, don't worry, have a cup of mushroom tea!

Bet it!! Thanks for the encouragement!

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Charlie Papazian wrote a series of books designed to help any person learn to successfully brew beer at home. The father of homebrewing.

The preface to every book?

"Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew!"

So you only have one spore syringe for your first grow?

Go for it. Carefully follow the tek and you will be golden.

Relax, don't worry, have a cup of mushroom tea!

Speaking of home brew. When I told my girlfriend I was going to give this a try, she mentioned to me about the home brew kit I got for Christmas a few years ago, that I still haven't started.. lol

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I haven't brewed beer in several years but I will before February passes. I'm getting MARRIED and need some really good beer, cheap.

The best beer I ever drank (and I have drank a lot of beers) I made myself!

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@terro20013 welcome!  I'm doing 6 qt dub tub for my first grow.  Cpt. Rabbit has good advice.  relax.  follow the teks and learn sterile technique.  you should do great.

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I haven't brewed beer in several years but I will before February passes. I'm getting MARRIED and need some really good beer, cheap.

The best beer I ever drank (and I have drank a lot of beers) I made myself!

Congrats on getting married.. I've made it to 51 without tieing the knot, doubt I will ever get married. .

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So, the single noc point ship lids the best way to noc?

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3 minutes ago, terro20013 said:

So, the single noc point ship lids the best way to noc?

I'm no expert, particularly with cakes, as I have only performed two cake grows...

I think you have 2 options...if you use a 4 point noc lid, as the original PF tek instructs, you must pack the top of the jar with vermiculite, which acts as a contaminant barrier.

If you build single point of inoculation lids you can skip the verm barrier, but you will require a method of Gas Exchange so the CO2 can escape.

This is commonly done with a slip of Tyvek in various ways, or, some use polyfill, or even micropore tape.

My cake grows followed the PF Tek, so I used a verm barrier with a 4 point lid. It sure did work.

11 minutes ago, terro20013 said:

Congrats on getting married.. I've made it to 51 without tieing the knot, doubt I will ever get married. 

I was done. @45 I was forced to break up (forces of government actually) with a woman with whom I had a troubled relationship with for a few years.

I was alone for over two years,  until this angel walked into my house one day. Now I am head over heels.

You just never know.

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Yea Capt, I going to do the 4 point noc with verm layer, and finish with micro tape.

I'm going to buy a tote and make a still air box and as soon as I get the spores ,I'll get started.. while the jars are hopefully colonizing, I'll get started on the sgfc.

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It's a good plan. That time when you will need your FC will sneak up on  you, so, don't overly delay the construction!

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31 minutes ago, terro20013 said:

So, the single noc point ship lids the best way to noc?

Something to consider, if you make your own SHIP lids and use some tyvek over the GE holes, you may be able to use the same lids down the road for your next project, it would save you some effort later. Making the SHIP is easy and tyvek is cheap (free).  If you are more comfortable with the 4 point noc lid and vermiculite barrier, you can definitely be successful with that method - my first grow used that as well.  CaptainRabbit has been giving you some good advice, you won't go wrong following it!

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Thanks and thanks..

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24 minutes ago, magicman said:

No need to fan for more than 3x a day. You risk drying out your cakes or substrate, and it's not necessary

MagicMan one of my ology heroes....

Misting and fanning is consistently misunderstood by beginners. I've seen this in every forum I've checked out. I am sure that there is plenty of info available to answer these questions... but I would like to see someone  (maybe you) publish a comprehensive article about this. One with some videos and pictures and maybe a little porn? Ya know? 

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I wish I was knowledgeable enough to do that. Actually I think it would be badass to make a series of videos step by step all good info help any mother fucker out kind of videos. 

Maybe I will ...

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Yes, I've watched all of MZS stuff. That's really where I  got the idea.

I think I will, my best friend is a video producer. Why not! 

Lotta learning to do still though. We got this.

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Ugh.. first mistake.. I bought the fine vermiculite. Instead of medium or coarse vermiculite. . Fine grade won't work will it?

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