Welcome to Shroomology

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • 0
Mush123

Bruising or contamination

Question

This tub has been in the fruiting chamber for about 10 days. I have a few pins on one side that seem to have the caps cracking because of too much fanning (i think). Also im noticing a lot of bruising. Lmk if you guys think its contamination. It smells completely normal to me. Its rye spawned to horse manure and the strain is cambodian. I still dont see too many knots forming which is concerning but the rye grain was pretty wet which could be why the pinning is being delayed. Have any of you seen this coloration on your tubs?

20170110_173046.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

12 answers to this question

Looks green to me bud.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah this doesn't look good. The humidity is definitely to low also, probably due to over fanning.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah, I agree with mushmouth. Looks like contam, toss it and start again.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Im just trusting my intuition here and say it is not. I dont smell anything and dont see any type of mold spores. I trully believe that all the fast moving air particles from using my box fan on max speed to fan for 2 minutes multiple times throughout the day have bruised the mycelium and also cracked the caps. This was not happening before i used this method of fanning. Ill update you guys when i find out for sure. This is a tough call for me :/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I deff feel like i fucked my humidity with all the fanning causing the mycelium to be stressed and therefore oxidizing the psilocin. Im attaching another photo so all of you can see the blue bruising with a tint of green to it. If this tub is not contaminated and fruits well, i want everyone to learn and know that too much fanning will cause such a thing and is nothing to worry about. If not, the members are right and the tub gets thrown out.

M123

20170110_234501.jpg

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm on the fence on this one, I've seen mold and bruising that looked just like that before. No harm in leaving it to find out but for god sakes get some moisture in that tub!

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I remember someone using an actual fan for fanning, but they only did it once at the very beginning of putting it into Fruiting conditions. They didn't keep using the actual fan after the one time. They gave their tub a blast of air for several minutes to get the evaporation process jumping and went to normal fanning after the one time fan blast. I've never used a fan for fanning any of my grows. But is interesting to watch how it works for you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have tried a small 4" fan blowing a few times a day on timer through filter material. Always ended in green. Totally enclosed but those green ones are pretty opportunistic

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Mush123 Dont worry about it. Looks like bruising to me. It happens all the time. Happens to me when I put a fan on a tub and walk away and forget im fanning. so it will get dried out, then when you mist to re hydrated it, it will bruise if you don't fan again. Here is a tub i had that happen to me. It mite not be a great first flush but second one should be bigger. not the normal way but that's what happens to me.

brusing.JPG

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The green is getting bigger bud. Did you moisturize it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@mushmouth i started misting more and have not used the box fan. Humidity is back up to almost 100. The green/blue does not seem to be spreading.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope you keep at this friend I am very curious to see the outcome of this one. Hope this turns out well for you. Wouldn't want any wasted spores now do we?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Who's Chatting

    There are no users currently in the chat room

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Don_Shadow
      Great read Samwise, thanks for sharing that. I'd like to try a blind study with the intent to explore these concepts a bit further. If one brewed a few different teas using say 2.5g cubensis, 1g mexicana, 1g Psilocybe cyanescens, 1g Panaeolus cyanescens and chose one at random and reported on the effects, this might be a fairly simple way to eliminate bias of any sort. While I have experimented quite a bit with cubensis and Ps. cyans in many different doses and contexts (mexicana less so, four times total) and developed pretty firm beliefs about the effects of each, I still can't be 100% sure that I'm not demonstrating bias. The differences do seem quite stark though I must say. I remember a bit from one of Terence's talks where he explores the idea of the content of psychedelic experiences and how they might be transformed or populated by the sum total of all of the previous trips taken. At the time, ketamine had recently arrived on the scene and he spoke about how the ketamine trip was often reported to be very "empty". This was, in his opinion, because very few people had experienced it, unlike the classic psychedelics which were packed with innumerable previous trips and revelations. I think his angle of approach to the subject was a little bit "woo woo" (to borrow his own lingo), because what he failed to mention was that ketamine had not yet been tamed by language. Since few people had described it, the experience lacked preconceived biases and therefore may have appeared to be empty. There was no roadmap to ketamine. I think this is what Rupert Sheldrake meant by "morphic resonance". Language, much like genes, has the uncanny ability to proliferate its agenda like an organism. I for one am pretty skeptical about the idea of fairies/elves/entities or voices in trips, and have avoided interpreting my experiences as an encounter with an "other", but rather an encounter with self (or One), which I believe people are too often eager to confuse with "other". Just my opinion.    
    • terro20013
      Thanks magic.. I've been watching some of your grows, and all I can say is wow!!! Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
    • _EC Myco
      Loving that white color...keep it up !!
    • Ryeguy85
      I would suggest getting yourself a large tub of which can accomadate your smaller tubs. Cut 4 2" holes with one on each side of the tub cover with tyvec seal around edges with tape. Make sure they are about 3" up from the bottom just in case you want to use the big tub for sub some day .Place your smaller tubs inside and mist the sides of the large tub to get that humidity level up. Good luck and don't panic.
    • Ryeguy85
      Hello  keep on keeping on eventually it will work! from what I can see in the tubs they look a little on the dry side so I would try and boost the humidity. you would be surprised at what types of conditions mushrooms will grow. Way back in the day when I was going full tilt I did not use casing in my first endeavours and still made some pretty good flushes. The mean green happens sometimes however you should be making sure you are using sterile technique to a T. Make sure your grain spawn is always 100% colonized plus a week before spawning. Also are you pasturizing your bulk sub or sterilizing it? If your temps get too high during pasteurization it kills most of everything living in the substrate. This is not a good thing as you want to keep some of the beneficial microorganisms to fight off the bad aka mean green and other contaminants. For any bulk sub preparation it's recommended to pasteurize not sterilize. If you sterilize then the spawn must be spawned in a sterile environment to keep contaminants out then you gotta pray the spawn takes hold before any tams do. For this reason I only pasteurize. For now I would keep on caring for the tubs as you should with misting and fanning try to bump that moisture up a bit. You want to see some moisture condensing on the sides of the tub not so it's running and flooding the sub just so there are droplets of water on the sides.   I hope this helps in some way like I said keep on keeping on eventually you will be able to produce mushrooms in your sleep.  This tub here was never cased