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jammingshroom

hey guys I'm back again with my 5 try but second success at growing

I have a few pictures to show and a few questions as well, but before I get into that I'll give the basic setup info

I'm doing a 6 qt dub tub mist and fan Tek tut by mushzom 

I have 4 tubs two of which I used the ztub tek making holes and putting polyfill into them one of those two I used microspore tape (it didn't work) 

of the 4 tubs I got going right now 2 have started to pin and showing tiny mushrooms (one of which I used the ztub tek - the other old school mist and fan), one is still coming along the myc haven't gotten past the casing yet (this one I modified the ztub tek and used microspore tape "big no no") and the other well I'm not sure... the myc has gotten past the casing an it's making weird formations (I think this one is one I used cyan spore instead of regular cube spores but I'm not sure because I messed the labeling up and if I'm not mistaken I think the strain I'm using is either Burma or treasure coast an that last tub might be a cyan not sure though... you'll see in the pictures

 

this is tub 1 (mist and fan Tek) + pins

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this is tub 1 again (closeup) + pins

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this is tub 2 (ztub tek with polyfill) + pins

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this is tub 2 closeup + pins 15575535592285410631201469313198.thumb.jpg.a82d51c935283d98367d2ba24bae3950.jpg

 

this is tub 3 (the one I think it's a cyan spore + had weird myc formations) 

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this is tub 3 again closeup of those formations I'm talking about

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this is tub 4 

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this is all four in a greenhouse with a humidifier at the bottom 

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when I was using dubtub tek on all four I couldn't tell the humidity but my room was around 50 give or take and the temp was around 70 average

in the greenhouse I've got it up to 90 percent humidity and the temp is still around 70 highest 76 

since I took the tubs out from the spawn run and began to fruit it's been 2 weeks and the pins first started to show around the 15th day 

 

ok so here are my concerns/questions

1. how do they look 1 - 4 

2. is it ok to move them from the dubtub tek to the mini greenhouse?

3. since I moved them to the mini greenhouse do I still mist and fan, fan only, or since I have the humidifier don't fan or mist at all?

4. the lil darkness on tub 2 at the bottom and 3 on the weird myc growth...is that contam or bruising? 

5. since tubs 1 and 2 are pinning do I stop misting and just fan, especially since I have the humidifier on? 

 

 

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MagicalCriminal

So glad I follow and read everything you post outside TUD MZ.  I was all set to case and maintain 90%. 

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Moonphase
30 minutes ago, Mush Zombie said:

90% RH is too high for cased substrates. Need to lower that down in the GH to 70-80% RH if you plan on doing that in the future.

This was a great piece of information to pick up on the fly.   I'm about ready to case some A+ and was going to put the 6 qt tubs into a large tub with perlite that maintains about 85%.  Good to know I can increase the FAE and not worry about a lower Rh.   

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Mush Zombie

You are welcome. Glad I could help. There is way too much misinformation out there that is being propogated by individuals seeking attention, or trying to sell affiliate products (spores and kits), but really are just posing as an authority on the subject, regurgitating parroted information. 

Casings and low-tech teks do not need to be this hard to understand, but unfortunately they are there confusing people with their crap.

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MagicalCriminal

Would it be beneficial to raise RH shortly before fanning time to promote more of a temperature drop then stabilize RH again in the 75% range? This came to mind since evap, temp drop and FAE are the pinning triggers. 

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Mush Zombie

The only pinning trigger is evaporation. No.

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MagicalCriminal

Thank you. Not sure how the rest of that got stuck in my head.

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Sonshyn
16 minutes ago, MagicalCriminal said:

So glad I follow and read everything you post outside TUD MZ.  I was all set to case and maintain 90%. 

Same

 

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jammingshroom
13 hours ago, Mush Zombie said:

You are welcome. Glad I could help. There is way too much misinformation out there that is being propogated by individuals seeking attention, or trying to sell affiliate products (spores and kits), but really are just posing as an authority on the subject, regurgitating parroted information. 

Casings and low-tech teks do not need to be this hard to understand, but unfortunately they are there confusing people with their crap.

I can attest to that and I truly want you to know it is appreciated all the information and time you give bro honestly because I've been on other sites and I've had other people try to sell me kits an give different information that's contradicting when I put into contact what you're saying.

again you just explaining when a greenhouse is needed n not and y the casing in the 6qt tub tek is not only just to protect but also helps with the humidity n y it works well with misting and fanning explaining all that and getting all that info I can plan better an know how to go about what I wanna grow. 

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jammingshroom

I'd also like to update, the log I'll put pictures in later I'm at work. 

ive gone back to the dubtub tek with the tub on top and I mist very lightly since I've gotten pins on my first two tubs about half inch to an inch in some parts and I fan for about 4 - 5 mins on each tub

temp range is still between 69 - 75 

and I can't get a read on the humidity in the tub (I'm afraid of putting anything in the tub to touch the myc) but apart from putting them in the green house for two days (I still mist and fanned though) I have followed the tek so the casing should take care of that. 

my only question now is when the pins get bigger do I still continue to mist (and of course fan) or do I just only fan

my guess is I still mist but only lightly possible so as to not bruise the myc but fan for a good period of time (4-5 min) as to have evaporation which as MZ pointed out is the only trigger.

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jammingshroom

ok so here's pictures at day 18 about 4 days after I saw the first pins

I'm seeing blueing in small areas but for the most part it looks nice. 

the casing looks dry

I mist and fan at least 3 times a day I mostly work 8 - 10 hour shifts so it's hard getting in more. 

I mist very lightly spray about 3 times and then fan for about 4-5 mins (if it's over kill please lmk) 

I think it's coming along ok but if I should be getting better results lmk what I'm not doing 

temp is in the 70s and humidity between 75 and 80 

tub 1

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tub 2 

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tub 3 

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my biggest concern is that the casing looks dry but I have pins and I do mist and fan 3 times daily

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Niidaho

Pan Jamaican  grow tufts of myc and pin from those tufts almost like cotton balls .so that's a good sign imo.and they do look dry to me.when I used a greenhouse I had a computer fan on a timer so I didn't have to fan.somthing to think about.looking good so far tho.

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jammingshroom
12 hours ago, Niidaho said:

Pan Jamaican  grow tufts of myc and pin from those tufts almost like cotton balls .so that's a good sign imo.and they do look dry to me.when I used a greenhouse I had a computer fan on a timer so I didn't have to fan.somthing to think about.looking good so far tho.

would you suggest I mist till I can see it's moist on tubs 1 and 2 while also continuing to fan

an thanks I'm looking into seeing up fans with timers

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jammingshroom

update #2 

day 19, 5 days after pinning 

 

tub 1 

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tub 1, b 

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tub 2, a

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tub 2, b

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tub 3, a 

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tub 3, b

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tub 4, a

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tub 4, b 

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ok here are my concerns/observations

1. the casing for tubs 1-2-3 look a bit dry, I've tried to correct this by misting till it looks damp but I also fan because I know you can't leave excess water on the myc/casing/pins (I've read you stop misting when you see pins but I've also read you can still mist but you can't leave standing water).

my question is do I just continue to mist and fan and not worry about the dryness?

or

just fan a little 3 times a day?

 

2. the mushrooms in tub 1 (you can see in the middle) have started to have the veil open on some yet they aren't even 3 inches tall. 

what am I doing wrong? 

 

3. tub four has one visible mushroom that has pinned and is about 2 inches tall, yet nothing for the rest of the tub. 

is there something I'm not doing? or something I'm doing wrong? 

 

setup: is dubtub for all four (apart from tub 1 which is a Auto zombietub) 

temp is between 67 and 75 (in the night and during the day) 

humidity (little side note when I go to work I leave them in my greenhouse so the humidity I can check and is stable and constant at around 85 to 75) an I'm gone around 9 hours at a time

when I'm back I put the covers on so the humidity I can't take ... it's n/a 

 

once again any suggestions is much appreciated.

 

 

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