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Mush Zombie

50/50+ Mushroom Casing Technique

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AL2O3

very nice MZ, thanks for posting it.

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BEYOND2

ill have to try this one ive been doin the 50/50 jiffy seed starter and vermiculite which works pretty good

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Mush Zombie

ill have to try this one ive been doin the 50/50 jiffy seed starter and vermiculite which works pretty good

the jiffy mix is 50/50 (peat/verm ph adjusted) it works good too, especially for mushrooms like cubes that dont take forever to fruit. but when you have a species that likes a neutral to slightly alkaline casing, and it takes forever to pin, you need to add the oyster shells. They are a long term PH buffer that lasts way after the lime has failed. Even in casings for cubes etc, the oyster shells add structure to the casing layer, and allow for better gas exchange between the myc and the air, creating a better pinset with less work for it (zombie tubs/mono tubs)
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thepuma

has to be course verm hey? I have medium by the score!

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Mush Zombie

has to be course verm hey? I have medium by the score!

coarse is best to use, yes. I guess you could use medium, but you will definately want to add the oyster shells more than ever. There wont be much structure to the casing without it, to allow for the best gas exchange. The secret to this tek it's ability to create valleys and ridges (structure) in the casing, which allows for gas exchange. It trumps other casings, like verm, which turn into a flattened mat.
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thepuma

ok so course even on the sub/mix ? or can I add shells with it or shells only on the top?

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Mush Zombie

ok so course even on the sub/mix ? or can I add shells with it or shells only on the top?

:huh: Mix all of the ingredients together, before adding water.

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thepuma

:huh: Mix all of the ingredients together, before adding water.

LOL sorry I asked that question stupid. I meant should I go 1/4" or half using medium verm?

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Mush Zombie

1/4" should be alright. Casings will work even if it is straight verm. But it is the quality of the casing that makes the biggest difference. I would say, just be careful how much, and how hard you mist, to make sure you dont flatten it out, and you should be alright. Most species that we deal with dont need a casing. This casing that we use for them protects the sub from drying out, and adds an extra moisture base for the mushrooms to draw from. Thats really all its for. In the book "the mushroom cultivator" they say to use 1/2" casings for very large substrates. I dont think anyone of use is going to have a 5' (H)x 5' (W) x 6" (D) substrate, so 1/4 should be just fine.

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thepuma

I plan on using a Zombie Tub for the no mist reason, same casing style still work?

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moon_walker
I also have added oyster chell to my sub mix cuz i heard it makes it stronger so you dont pull your sub apart when you pull the fruits, but on the subs i have pulled on my most recent zombie tubs ive really had no problem with that anyway when harvest comes. I like this casing tek i am going to use that on my next grow for sure. good luck to you Puma. :hippie:

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thepuma

thanks Moon how much of the shells do you add to your sub or do you just case the top of it?

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moon_walker
Well in my 6qt dub tubs "zombie tubs" ive added probly 'round a cup . I read somewhere that myc loves latchin to the shell chunks but i need to get more, this thread is actually the first time i read a casing tek that had it in it. but if Mz says its good then you know its good, maybe try putin it in the sub mix and this casing tek,. probly get some real beauties.do you have a grow log going or anythin?

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Mush Zombie

I have never heard of using oyster shells in sub. I dont really see how it would make a difference. If the myc network has a strong hold on the substrate then it will generally be easy to pluck them off IME.

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moon_walker
your probly right MZ the tek i saw it on was for a cake method but i just figured it proly wouldn hurt to try it on a bulk method too. haha

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