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Cakes in SGFC.. is it a happy fuzz or mold?
Jboomholla posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
Here are pictures of a couple of my cakes from my SGFC and just wondering if the white fuzz is good or bad... I birthed the cakes a few days ago and they were already growing fairly large mushrooms as well as pins so I went ahead and followed thru the rest of the steps because they smelled like healthy mushrooms to me, nothing bad. Some cakes have very healthy looking pins coming out, a couple of the more mature ones got bruised large shrooms I had to force out of the jar a little and they didn’t detach from the cake so I just left them thinking maybe they’ll get even bigger. Now they’re fuzzy and just wondering if that’s good or not -
How long do I wait till I birth 100% outside colonized 125ml 1/2 pint brf cake?
orionstarseed posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
I have a jar that has completely colonized on the outside just the other day and I want to know how long until I can dunk it and birth it? it is a 125ml 1/2 pint jar -
Advice seeked.Experiment attempted.
Mycomeso posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
So I have a small macro type experiment I wanted to do and it deals mainly with casing and the expectant results from such methods. What I’ve done is fully colonized a 4 oz. container (small I know for sake of speed) and then prepare with a 12 hour water dunk and as you can see a light casing of peat spaghum and some spent coffee ground mix on approx half of the cake. I’m hoping to be able to see some real benefits/disadvantages for going one way or another. As it stands now tho I’m getting some very different myc growths depending on which side you look at. Now this is where your more experienced and guided hand takes mine in tow, and educate me some!On one side it looks almost as if tomentose whereas on the moss side we are getting the real ropey rhismorphic stuff is at.My question is which One is preferable at this stage ? -
I’m currently needing clarification on mycelial network
Mycomeso posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
So my question is this if I take one cake and inject (4 different varieties) of psilocybin cubensis what will the resulting outcome be? Will it eventually fruit only one variety that was ultimately genetically stronger or will so many recombinant mycelia families be produced that the cake will fruit several “mutant” and “new” mushrooms that can be isolated and cloned on agar and sold eventually as my very own?Or a third possibility is the mycelium networks will create a patchwork of “fiefdoms” that produce fruiting bodies of the original genetic variety? Also could someone explain why their are not more varieties of oyster colors if making two separate varieties but same species is technically possible? -
Just a fun true story that happened a couple years back. Any similar expieriences?? So it's my first grow and, of course, I'm doing a BRF cake tek. You know, the one with the perlite and holes. Anywho, a few weeks after dunking I wasn't getting pins. My cakes were dried out. Ego: deflated. I got pissy, put them in a trash bag, and threw them on my porch. A week or two passes. I come outside one day and see the bag I forgot. Upon picking it up to throw it away I feel something soft in the bag. Sometimes nature knows best.
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I have a set of cakes that will be ready in a few weeks and I want to go off my pf tek course and try something different with a few cakes, ten per chamber seems too crowded anyways. Any suggestions? Would they survive in my garden perhaps? Should I try a bulk grow tek? Which I plan to move to, in the future anyhow. They are GT.
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Hey everyone I'm starting over, on my posting methods among other things, now that I have a flush or two down from a few diff cakes I still obv consider myself a scrub at cultivation but not so blindly stupid to the terms and teks and how it all comes together. Any input on this topic should be constructive or feedback of experience, as I am in an ongoing learning process, like many of you(no dinosaurs pls I don't want to hear about what ur 20 year old Tek did for you on one rainy weekend years ago. If ya gotta be negative, at least make it something to work with! Now that I have completed the rant part; into experiments, recent, ongoing, or soon tbd. Hope many can learn thru my mistakes and vice versa maybe a tip or two along the way will save a strong flush or revamp a thought to be dead sub. Started with Pf Tek (brf cakes) Used PC 90min lowtemp Reliably sourced syringes Initially started noccing jars late Sept/October randomly thru January. Used space above fridge and top of the dark side of my closet when they started overfilling. Think we nocced close to 80 jars(pints) had issues with air inside, had mold removed, got a purifier hepa type for the house. I imagine I will not lose as many to Tams or failed nocc next time but I probably threw away 30+ jars of the 80 being unexperienced. realizing later, 10 or so of the tossed ones we're probably fine, just being too cautious at the time. Had to mix diff strains in sgfc's based off what was 100%noc first..so confusion was caused there somewhat but good for experimentation nonetheless. Today, there are 15p.e ready to birth, 4 Ecuador to break and dunk, a couple tams on the ones that saw decent fruits already dunked those last night in distilled with a splash of h202, I use iso and perox alot trying to find it's capabilities with myc, gonna set a planter up on the patio for contammed cakes, also getting 3 fresh 44qt FCs in the Martha. Last weekend I got everything I think I need to get subs and casing for bulk started, good brand wbs, no corn, no sunflower, fresh pack of coir lime etc who wants to help me smash out these PEs or advice on anything else so far, will post lots of pics and be more detailed in my future posts, without dragging on, guess this can be the start of my amateur grow log, pics are the first fruits from cake 3 in Martha posted below. B+ Setup basics: Sgfcs or the like in a Martha. 44qt tubs, 3-4" perlite strained lots of holes of course, was playing with polyfill and then leaving some open, for the totes I'm putting in today, will be trying plastic micropore tape(2 layers on bottom holes ,1 layer on lid holes, playing with 1-2layerson side holes, have small random spots of perlite fuzz recently, one light greenish a couple purplish, a grayish cobwebbyspot, going to bleach spray Martha and put everything clean back in later. Regarding perlite tho, have read where you can just strain it thru tap water..done that, the FC I prepped last night had the perlite strained then soaked in peroxide and water for a few hours then I restrained at sink and dumped in, also saw German guy talking about pressure cooking it hAha just too much shit. What to do next..
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Hey everyone I'm starting over, on my posting methods among other things, now that I have a flush or two down from a few diff cakes I still obv consider myself a scrub at cultivation but not so blindly stupid to the terms and teks and how it all comes together. Any input on this topic should be constructive or feedback of experience, as I am in an ongoing learning process, like many of you(no dinosaurs pls I don't want to hear about what ur 20 year old Tek did for you on one rainy weekend years ago. If ya gotta be negative, at least make it something to work with! Now that I have completed the rant part; into experiments, recent, ongoing, or soon tbd. Hope many can learn thru my mistakes and vice versa maybe a tip or two along the way will save a strong flush or revamp a thought to be dead sub. Started with Pf Tek (brf cakes) Used PC 90min lowtemp Reliably sourced syringes Initially started noccing jars late Sept/October randomly thru January. Used space above fridge and top of the dark side of my closet when they started overfilling. Think we nocced close to 80 jars(pints) had issues with air inside, had mold removed, got a purifier hepa type for the house. I imagine I will not lose as many to Tams or failed nocc next time but I probably threw away 30+ jars of the 80 being unexperienced. realizing later, 10 or so of the tossed ones we're probably fine, just being too cautious at the time. Had to mix diff strains in sgfc's based off what was 100%noc first..so confusion was caused there somewhat but good for experimentation nonetheless. Today, there are 15p.e ready to birth, 4 Ecuador to break and dunk, a couple tams on the ones that saw decent fruits already dunked those last night in distilled with a splash of h202, I use iso and perox alot trying to find it's capabilities with myc, gonna set a planter up on the patio for contammed cakes, also getting 3 fresh 44qt FCs in the Martha. Last weekend I got everything I think I need to get subs and casing for bulk started, good brand wbs, no corn, no sunflower, fresh pack of coir lime etc who wants to help me smash out these PEs or advice on anything else so far, will post lots of pics and be more detailed in my future posts, without dragging on, guess this can be the start of my amateur grow log, pics are the first fruits from cake 3 in Martha posted below. B+ Setup basics: Sgfcs or the like in a Martha. 44qt tubs, 3-4" perlite strained lots of holes of course, was playing with polyfill and then leaving some open, for the totes I'm putting in today, will be trying plastic micropore tape(2 layers on bottom holes ,1 layer on lid holes, playing with 1-2layerson side holes, have small random spots of perlite fuzz recently, one light greenish a couple purplish, a grayish cobwebbyspot, going to bleach spray Martha and put everything clean back in later. Regarding perlite tho, have read where you can just strain it thru tap water..done that, the FC I prepped last night had the perlite strained then soaked in peroxide and water for a few hours then I restrained at sink and dumped in, also saw German guy talking about pressure cooking it hAha just too much shit. What to do next..
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Hello Everyone, I hope this post is in the correct section of the forums, but given this is my first post I'm not %100 sure. If not I'll happily create a new thread in the correct area if someone would kindly direct me to said area. With that out of the way I come to you seeking aid. This is my first attempt at cultivating mushrooms, and I have one jar that's developed a dark discoloration at the very top of the cake. It appeared about a week ago and has slowly claimed the upper 1/5th of the cake. I can't tell if it's contamination, dead mycelium, or natural discoloration of the mycelium. I don't know if it'll help, but the strain is KSSS, and the cake is ready to be birthed. On that note if the cake is contaminated would it be possible to sacrifice the upper 1/4th of the cake to save the rest? The discoloration stopped spreading several days ago, and is hopefully isolated to that one area. Thank you for your time, -Rykan1408
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Chronic/2 Liter bottle/ twist cap tub , new and need help
Kingslim posted a topic in Getting Started Growing Mushrooms
What's up everyone! Let me start off real quick to inform everyone this is my first post, so bare with me please. Been studying, studying, and studying some more. Just want to clarify on a few steps while I'm doing it. No point to not ask for help if there is some out there right?! I'm doing these methods because I want to see what works for a single fruiting chamber and I didn't want to risk contaminating all my cakes. So I went and bought some 2 liters, tubaware containers, and a few others. There is so many do's and dont's on cultivation and it's confusing the hell out of me. I only have 4 cakes, but from some looking I've read that it's better to use individual containers instead of a full FC tub if you don't have enough cakes to fill it up. 1st question. Does my cakes look fully colonized? It's been about 3-4 weeks above my fridge in a tote with cardboard with holes over it. Just making sure, that's why I only have 2 right now just in case you guys think I should give it any longer 2nd question. Do I need to fan and mist my 2L ? Some post I see they have the cap off, some have it on, some have polyfil. I don't have polyfil just as of right now I have the cap on, with perlite in the bottom, the cake is on a piece of foil, and there are no holes in the bottle. I have been fanning with a book and misting the bottle 3 times a day. I also have another container, (got this from MLBjammer) holes poked in the bottom of lid, no fanning no misting. The cake in the 2L , I birthed under water very well and did not dunk to simply try out the difference between not dunking vs dunking. Since this is my first experience I want to find out as much as I can! The cake in the twist cap was dunked for 23 hours. 3rd/4th question. Should I use the Hawaiian Punch jug? Do it like I did the 2L? Should I use verm or perlite at the bottom? And should I poke holes in it? Or just open it to fan and mist then put the lid back on with cap on? I hope I can get at least one of my cakes to fruit. Once I figure out what I should do with the other 2 cakes, should I just go ahead and birth them and dunk or no? Should I just turn one of my cakes in the jar still over (once I scrap off the verm layer inside) flip it over and leave it in there with no maintenance? See if that works? Invitro I believe? **Thai Lipa Yai strain** I am definitely wanting to go bulk after this, but I just wanted to to experience cakes. Thank you to all that do read my post and try to help! -
These are the first jars I’ve ever made.. First bags as well.. new to this site but it looks cool. If anyone can see anything wrong with what I’ve got going on please let me know.
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mushroom/pin has weird grey/white stuff on cap
timmyman420 posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
so i have finally got some growth in my FC and am very excited but i noticed today that one of my mushrooms have some weird stuff on that cap of it. not sure if its anything to be concerned about or not. i have looked all over the internet to see if its mold or not but cant seem to find anyone who has the same problem as mine. here is a pic of what im talking about. -
PF tek when to birth cakes/ looks like mycelium is not growing
timmyman420 posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
so my jars where colonizing really good for the first 2 weeks. but then when they hit 100% colonized they seem to have stopped growing. this jar has been fully colonized for almost 2 weeks now and it looks the same. the mycelium does not look any thicker. the temp for my jars have been right at 75 F the whole time. should i just birth the cake and see what happens? i feel like the mycelium does not have a good enough hold of the substrate and will just fall apart when i take it out. any suggestions on what i should do. here are some pics. -
switching from pf tex to bulk after your cakes have colonized
Shroomytunes posted a topic in Getting Started Growing Mushrooms
Is it possible to switch from pf tek to the bulk dub tub method with already colonized bro cakes? is it recommended? -
Here are a pictures of a couple cakes I am growing I noticed this round all the mushrooms seem to have a white shell over all of them almost like a protectant of some sort you can clearly see in the picture wondering if anyone has any ideas thank you. Here's another picture of 1 I grew same condition and environment but y does this one have no outer shell? Any tips would be great thank you.
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Help fruition the pros
Tigercloud686 posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
I have some Liberty cats that should be starting to pin anytime this seems to be the point in the cultivation that I experienced the most problems with, if any of you could give me a tip just by looking at the pictures I would appreciate that if it need more detail I can give you all the information in the about the set up I'm running, I have a full time job so I had to buy this automated system. on the right are some Amazon's that have been producing just fine, on the left are growing Liberty caps that for some reason smell and look a little off for some reason. -
Making a bigger cake from BRF jars (Cont.)
slownlo posted a topic in Getting Started Growing Mushrooms
Very thin layer of a manure based substrate casing. Really excited to see how these come up (B+). So.....should I mist and fan or just leave it alone?... (Thanks MushMouth!) -
I had 2x nicely colonized BRF jars so before I left on vacation and I crumbled them into some field moist sterilized substrate made of cpoo, verm & hardwood mulch. I used a 6QT tub lined with a thick black plastic bag. Here are the results after about 12 days. This is an experiment and I'm a noob so please keep that in mind.... My whole point in doing this was to see if I could make a bigger "cake" (its now a 4" x 13" x 9" brick) out of the 2x much smaller BRF cakes.... It looks like its working... is this fully colonized or should I give it some more time? let it pin? advice? any temperature/humidity advice? When its done, should I dunk it to re hydrate the brick and then case it with a 1/4" layer of verm? put it back in the black liner then case the top about 1/4"? My camera sucks.
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Cakes stuck in Jars
TheKansasKidd posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
In a rush I used old sauce jars where the neck narrows up to the lid slightly, so the myc cakes cannot slide out freely, does anyone have any experience or advice for this (besides get new jars for next time) ? Im thinking if they wont come out to just follow the old McKenna Brothers method and just put pasturized soil on top and see what pops out, as long as i can get one good cap to make a spore print with I'll be happy (i started with old, dried caps from my gf and worked like a MF'er to get some mycs going, took a while but its going now). Also, new to the site in general but look forwrd to learning something new, thanks! K.K. -
Hello gang! I am wondering if there is a 'use-by' on spore prints once you receive them? how soon after they arrive should I be inocculating? is it an issue to leave them a few days or is there some storage technique I should know about? Thank you in advance anyone who takes time to answer !
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Are there more pins starting and does my cake look fine? (Day 3 of birhing)
orionstarseed posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
I was wondering if my cake looked like there was more pins on its way? cause I have only had the two since ive birthed it which was 2 am on the 20th. The pins started in the jar so I birthed it but they haven't grown a lot since then, why are they growing so slow, should they be bigger after two days? -
Are there more pins starting and does my cake look fine?
orionstarseed posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
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Is this Mycelium metaobolites or Contamination?
orionstarseed posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
I innoculated the jars on the 20th of sept within alacabenzi lc it is now the 9th day, I innoculated straight downwards into the Substrate because I didi not know you were supposed to inject it to drip down the glass, there is healthy mycelium growing on one part but at the bottom there is some yellow orange, Is this bacteria or is it just early mycelium metabolites? -
Is it normal to have early Myclium metabolites at bottom of Brf cake jar?
orionstarseed posted a topic in General Mushroom Cultivation Questions & Answers
I innoculated some jars with some Alacabenzi Liquid culture syringes and one jar that has some healthy Mycelium growing at the innulation point downwards but when you look at the bottom it has some yellow/Orange color on the bottom of the jar in the middle that is the size of a quarter It is just plain substrate though, is this early Mycelium Metobolites fighting a contaminent or is it a contaminent?
