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  1. I definitely don't want to freak out till I know something is wrong. This is my first attempt at a monotub and up until now things have been looking good. I just returned home from being gone this weekend and this is how my tub looks. Freaking huge white patch growing and I have no idea why... The tub has been in fruiting conditions for 7 days now. My question is: what the hell is it? what can I do? do I leave it alone? Please and thank you my fellow fungi family.
  2. I’ve had this mono cased for about two weeks . It started to pin a couple times . But wouldn’t give much at all . You can see the Lone mushroom in there I’m about I pic . My ac was out for a day and it got a little warm like 78 in my place in the afternoon . At night it was back to 70. I’ve been having trouble with Pinning the last month on my mono, as well as the dubs I let incubate too long . Any thoughts from your guys ? Current temp in my place is 72.
  3. So Ive been trying my best on this mono tub and im just scared that it wont come out right. Im doing it the cheapest way becuase this is all i got. I plan to get better equipment in the future. Can anyone give me some advice on this tub.
  4. So this is from a grow I started 13 days ago and thought it good timing to do the WBS “shake”.My question is this has anyone experienced three diff forms of mycelium growth all coming from the same strain and same spore syringe?The picture should put things in perspective.
  5. GoldenCaps

    Mono Tub Contaminated?

    So my first run at a mono tub Isn’t going too well. Things started off fine but then I noticed some blueish coloring right underneath my filter holes around day 15 post birthing. It was either mold or my substrate was drying out. In a panic to save the whole tub I decided to put a late casing on to moisten the substrate hoping that this would minimize the chance of the blueish coloring getting worse and things don't look quite right. Some of the caps are deformed and some of the stems have white fuzz climbing up the entire stem. Is it safe to consume these? If there is mold in my tub should I toss the whole thing or pick the healthy looking fruits and roll the dice? I have probably done multiple things wrong but I am hoping to learn from these mistakes to make the next batch go a lot smoother. Ive attached photos before and after the late casing. Any advice/ input is GREATLY appreciated!
  6. Hey guys. Some I'm running a monotub of penis envy for the first time. These things have been weird from the start. I have a 56 qt tub with 3 2 inch lower holes on the longer sides and 2 2 inch higher holes on the smaller sides. Spawned to Coco. Some of the caps are cracked and now the mycelium is turning blue. I hope this is just bruising and not trich. Any opinions?
  7. On bulk grows of 6 qt and up I have a question. How do YOU rehydrate your bulk grow after the first flush? Do you remove it from the container? Do you add water to the container and then pour out the rest and if so how do you remove the substrate to allow it to drain off? I am interested in everyones techniques. I've been tossing this around in my head for a while now ever since spawning my first rye berry spawn to coir/coffee ground substrate in 6 qt tubs last week. How do you all accomplish this task?
  8. Hello shroomers, day 14, golden teachers, I have here what after doing some research, looks to appear to be overlay, I have made other threads of this mono and people say it looks okay and should pin and my humidity is high and maybe not enough FAE. But im worries it is getting to much FAE as the cake is slowly shrinking, pulling from the sides. It's been about 2 weeks since spawn with no signs of any pins. Anyone have suggestions ?
  9. I have been doing a monotub tek for the second time, this time with PE strain Last time I did a monotub I had less than ideal conditions in every step(mold colonizing in 3/4 of the cake style jars, improper soil(yard dirt instead of coco-coir, 80-90 fruiting conditions, flooding my tub continually, 2 1/2 pint colonized jars in a 60qt mono) and still grew 20g's dry. I have a few questions: 1: I am wondering what dry weight I should expect from 3lb's of colonized rye seeds and approx double the amount of coco coir as there is rye seeds in a 60qt monotek. PE strain ?????? (setup is fan/mist often, 12hr light cycle) 2: I am having trouble fruiting and have not seen pins yet and it's been 5 days since I put my chamber into fruiting conditions.(fan/mist, 70-80degrees, 12hr light cycle) I did not wait for the chamber to create the white fuzzy layer entirely before introducing fruiting conditions, but I did wait until there were white fuzzy spots in quarter size diameter around the rye seeds. Did I do something wrong? is it going to be okay? Did I potentially affect my overall yield? Should I continue fruiting conditions, or revert to no light, no mist no fan for a short period? What the tub looks like currently is the attached photo: Any advice would help, or if you want to suggest any improvements.
  10. mycoandbjj


    Image 1 is a my first tub - Image 2&3 is second tub - Image 4 third Alright big dogs its my time growing and I think one of my monotubs is contaminated (Image 4). I used a Mycowilly tutorial on Vimeo and my tubs have polyfill in them from the start. He says they'll pin in a few days if you fan and mist often but I also see people say not to open the tub and let it the full colonization take place. I think its been about 7 days, I've had them in some natural light during the day, was fanning but backed off and my room temp has been like 70-85 f probably. Do I just let these bad boys sit and keep colonization? Should i just stick them in my closet for a week? Mist and water more? #ganggang
  11. PoliteHunter

    Monotub Noob

    I am going to try and grow a Monotub, I've read the guide and have some questions, dont know if there stupid or not haha. Knobbly have experience with jars. 1. It says to add a casing layer once the mycelium turns white, what does this mean? More Substrate? 2. After you make the substrate how do you inoculate it inside the tub? do you just inject it with syringes throughout the tub, if so how much do you need? Doesnt seem like it, i tihnk im missing something. If not syringes what do you use and how much do you need? 3. How much weight can you expect from one tub? Like a 1/2 pound? 4. It says it needs natural light? How could this be accomplished artificially, does anybody have any recommendations? 5. Some say to lessen the heat during fruiting? I've never heard of this until today, is that normal? I would really appreciate it as i plan on growing multiple Monotubs.
  12. Good Evening Folks, I'll try to be brief: This is the first grow i've ever attempted, and up until about a week ago I thought I was doing fine. No contams, proper spawning appearance, etc., but I messed up folks. I didn't follow the tek to the letter (apologies to Mush), and I think in doing that I messed up my sub. Hoping that advice here can help me at least salvage the work, as I know it is a viable sub and should be able to fruit. So far: grain spawn from LC, mixed with 80/20 Coir/Verm substrate, no casing layer. I didn't really tamp down the surface with the back of my hand when I finished, i just wanted it mostly level and (I assumed) not at all packed. Where I think I messed up: It had been over 14 days and no pinning. No primordia, no signs, etc. I hadn't really taken off the top too much, so I decided to get a bottle of distilled water and spray the sides of the container as the RH sensor was showing 60% humidity. The temps this container was in weren't entirely stable, dropping to 66F at night, and sometimes (accidentally) 75 during a few days. I moved the bin from one room to the other (Another post tells me this likely caused it to bow in the center), and have kept temps stable between 69-71F. After the surface turned a bit whiter, I assumed the mist had helped...and misted the whole sub with distilled water. I looked in a few days later, and the sub had...pulled away from the sides. I did not use a trash bag. I then pushed lightly at the plastic bins' sides and slowly poured distilled water down each, and then spent 2-3 mins tilting it back and forth to try and get it to evenly absorb until there was no water seeping from side to side. This raised the RH in the chamber and made the sub smell like...what I remember mush tea smelling like. It started fruiting after this. I now know I shouldn't have moved it (or at least had something flat underneath when doing so), and i shouldn't have misted it at all. Should I also not have ever lifted the lid? The tek is simple, 54QT sterilite container no holes, lid just flipped over for FAE. I never fanned at all, just mixed the sub/spawn after getting sub to field capacity, and then put it in a closet. So now I can at least see I didn't "fail". There are fruiting bodies (I feared the LC was just not viable). It's further than I've ever gotten. But, they're only pinning at the sides, with no visible growth on top at all. What's worse, you can see the cracks in the sub? I set it onto a stool briefly while moving it (stupidly) and it bowed UP in the center briefly, cracking the sub. What can I do to save it? Is it too early to try and dunk/flush? I was thinking of: 1. Placing a trash bag/liner over the top, and flipping the container to pop out the sub layer and wrap the liner underneath. OR 2. Following another tek I saw here and spraying the top with my sink sprayer? then flushing it with bottles weighing down the sub, draining it after an hour. It's aggressively side-pinning, and I want to stop that energy waste and prevent contamination from the fruiting bodies rotting due to the collected moisture on the sides. Can i still fruit from this sub, or am I better off starting over? Thanks in advance, the forums really helped me kick all this into motion. I do wish I'd never wasted money on the BRF/Verm/small jars for the cakes, as the grain spawn was much easier to understand, but this entire process has been a fun experience and I can't wait to (eventually) get my first harvest.
  13. Just noc'd my first jars of WBS yesterday, time will tell if there's contamination. Also noc'd a jar of LC to keep things going if it works out. Started by cleaning the sunflower seeds out of the WBS. Poured boiling water into 5 gallon bucket, covered 90 minutes with towel, poured into strainer and rinsed. Put 1/4 cup coarse vermiculite in bottom of quart jars and added the WBS. Pressure cooked for 90 minutes. Made the LC with karo and water, PC for 90 mins also. Thanks for the easy to follow videos @mushzombie . Sprayed a crap load of lysol everywhere, put gloves on, soaked a paper towel in rubbing alcohol and wiped off gloves and syringe and wiped the SHIP's on each jar before injecting, also heated syringe tip until orange before each one. Glove box was not tall enough to noc the jars without leaning them on side so I opted not to use it, hope it doesn't come back to bite me. The jars of WBS and the LC are now sitting in my closet, have a tower heater set at 78, it has gotten the wbs up to 81 degrees though when it's running so I didn't want to turn it higher. Will do everything in my power to not check on these daily. These will he going into a 58 qt monotub (couldn't find 60 qt anywhere) with 50/50+ casing. I also found 80qt container that came with multiple latches and weatherstripping already on it at Target, so of course I bought it. If the LC ends up working out I'll attempt to use it to noc more WBS jars for the 80qt monotub. If it doesn't work out I do have golden teacher spore print which I will be making agar for today with malt agar extract. Also will have more syringested in the mail whenever my beginner starter pack gets here, so I could wait, but I'd rather have multiple monotubs going to keep me a little busier with any free time I have to keep my mind from wandering and thinking about my wifes cancer. One question I do have is should I wait until the jars are colonized completely to mix and pressure cook my bulk substrate? Everything at home is about to be a mess, because of my wifes cancer her parents are coming to visit and guess where they're staying???? Dun dun dun at our house. My wife already agreed to get them out of the house for the day when I need to get the pressure cooker back in action for the substrate, not sure how exactly that's going to work out, maybe spray a bunch of air freshener and open the doors before they come home? Will edit and upload pictures later, bored at work and wanted to get a head start on this.
  14. darkvoyager

    Tale of two monos

    whats up, wanted to share these fruiting tubs and get any comments or advice since my last two tammed (for a few reasons but nonetheless). For the curious the substrate is 7QTS Vermiculite, 6 QTS Poo 4 QTS coir(1/2brick) 2 QTS coffee like a cup of gypsum. 6Qts spawn. 3tsp lime. first tub was in colonization 11 days the second for 10. heres pictures from when I took it out and post casing with 50/50+ ph per MZ tek. I’m also including some outside pics of the tubs. You can see the rings of “air exchange?” around the holes but every time I pop the probe into either they read 99%. First tubs holes are 1”x1” the seconds are 1.5”x1.5” They just came out last night 2/10 but @Mush Zombie says cased subs should ideally be between 70-85% RH so should I try to up the FAE by opening the holes all the way/less poly? Or let continue as is, I’m guessing it’s high as f because the sub Ietting it all loose lol
  15. Spawned grain jars using spore syringe, mixed with purchased bulk substrate, and then use a monotub, utilizing a tray for easier soaking between flushes. Cubensis SA Ive been successful in the past with other strains, but my current tray hasn't seen any growth in over a week. Some of the caps have lightened in color, which I assumed was maturation, but the mushrooms havent done anything in a while and appear to be rotting? Or am I just being impatient? Based on my limited experience I want to pull them, soak, and go for flush two. Maybe too much moisture/ too little? The only thing ive done differently is I went on a 3-day ski trip early on before 1st pin so no FAE, but I dont see how that would have affected this now.
  16. I have to small monotubs setup and they seem to be going strong as far as colonization. However I opened them up today and noticed an off smell, somewhat like plastic. The mycelium seems to be quite strong. I also notice a little pooling of brownish liquid on the tops, which I've read could be mycelial metabolites. This is my first monotub test, so I dont know what to expect. I am attaching a photo of each tub. Only one has the brownish water. Below is a description of my methods. Any advice on the smell or pooling of brown liquid would be appreciated. -Wheat berry grain spawn jars (with some coffee added) were fully colonized. I have since started more jars from the originals with no signs of contamination. Pressure cooker sterilized. -Coco substrate, boiling water on top to hydrate. -Spawn to substrate ratio was 1:2 -Monotubs were colonized for 10 days with micropore tape over 2 inch holes.
  17. widespreadwizard


    I was reading the monotub tek and I noticed on the drawing that there are 1/4" holes 5" from the bottom. However the grow picture shows 2 square 1" holes 5 " from the bottom with poly fiill that were not included in the drawing. Are these needed? I do not have an exact 60q tub, but I am assuming that my botton 1/4" holes should be just above where my casing is, is that correct? I would think if I had 1" holes there they might need to be slightly higher so the poly fill doesnt touch the casing. I appreciate all the help I have gotten here, everyone is great for helping us nubes.
  18. Are these cakes healthy? P. Cubensis taking forever to pin. This is my third attempt at growing, and the farthest I've made it in the process. They've been in the tub for 2 weeks as of today. Lots of nodes growing all over, but no pinning. Temp generally kept at 68 degrees. Our heat in the apartment doesn't stay consistent. I make sure to keep the RH at around 80-85% with misting. Should I just keep it going? I don't see any mold. Still has a nice smell to it. Any ideas?
  19. Hey guys, I am a new grower and I have a few questions about the monotub. I've read as many threads on monotub teks as I could before they all started to mesh together into an incomprehensible guide for my brain to understand. Ultimately, with some slight improvisation, I decided to use the monotub tek that Mush Zombie included in a guide describing 3 bulk growing techniques: https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/6-how-to-grow-magic-mushrooms-shrooms-in-bulk/ I've been reading a lot of old and new posts to get familiar with all of the terminology, so if there is a term that is questionable, please correct me so I can learn what to say instead. In an effort to keep this relatively brief, I'll try to keep the details down to the essentials. I started by inoculating 10 PF Tek 1/2 pint jars. No contamination, everything looked great. I spawned the 10 jars (broken up evenly) into a 51 qt tub, and mixed with about 7 lbs of substrate. I did not measure out the number of quarts, instead I filled the tub until I had ~3.5" of substrate w/spawn, then lightly smoothed down. I then added a 1/8-1/4 inch casing layer, smoothed, misted and set in the incubating chamber. After 8 days the entire substrate was colonized, and mycelium was tearing through the casing layer. It was beautiful. I then introduced it to fruiting conditions; 71F, 90-99% RH, 11 hours of light per day. The tub has been in these conditions for a total of 3 days. I keep the tub in a small 'tower' for temperature and humidity conservation due to where I live. Everything looked great until one day I forgot to turn the setting for a small fan I keep inside a tower (to promote FAE cyclically though out the day), from the outlet setting, to the timer setting. I also unfortunately, had it pointed at one of the polyfilled holes on the end of the tub. All of these frivolous details aside, the point is that while there was condensation on the side of the tub (due to the temperature differential inside and outside of the tub), the substrate had dried significantly. While I have read that it is common for the substrate to pull away from the sides of the tub, I did not line it with a plastic bag, and the gap was worth noting. As well, a crack developed in the middle of the tub, and there was some minor 'blueing' of a few patches of mycelium - 3 patches, each about the size of a quarter. After I removed the tub, I misted until beads of water formed, waited, misted, waited etc. until no more water was absorbed. I dabbed any puddles of standing water, and misted the walls. I was sure to move the fan further away, aimed to cause circulation, and not directly at the tub, and loosened the polyfil at the top. I purchased a new hygrometer with a probe that so far have proven consistent and accurate. The reading is steady between 94-97%RH. The blueing of the mycelium has stopped, and it has returned to a healthy white again. The crack is much less pronounced, and overall, it appears to have made a steady recovery. Side note, temperature has also been kept between 68-72F during the whole process. I've taken a very scientific approach to the whole process regarding sterilization, standardized measurements of temp and RH in equal time intervals after introducing various conditions (misting, running the fan, increasing temperature, etc.). So far, I've gotten that part down. Now, the reason for this post, is that I lack experience and "the special touch" or wisdom that you only get from experience. I've read so much about FAE that truly I don't know what else to really think, and I don't have the experience to rely on my gut. I've read that too much, and too little are negative. Over the past few days while testing variables, I've been taking the lid of the tub off to either dab puddles, or mist. From what I've read, monotubs are a set and forget tek, and thus far, I've been having to interact with mine more than I should have needed to. Conditions have stabilized, and there appears to be no contamination, or serious damage done to the mycelium. At least - it looks that way to my inexperienced eye. My question is, what are the possible adverse effects from all of this, if any of you have similar experiences? Was your pinset or yield affected. Timeframe, # of flushes? I understand I am probably overthinking this, but I'd rather err on the side of caution and consider all of the possibilities, including the best and worst case scenarios. Any input, advice, or shared experience would be greatly appreciated!
  20. Apex APE

    Penis Envy contam

    Growing a Mono tub of Penis envy and unsure if this is contaminated, as most of these yellow clusters which are few but still evident are troubling me. Also have a very small spot of fuzz which is possibly from humidity.
  21. I have a couple questions I've done cake grows before I have a couple under my belt but it's my first monotub I'm doing Amazonian strain I think I put it into fruiting too early it's been 6 days since I switched over no pins not really any sign of too much not sure if I what I did honestly I got a couple pictures maybe you guys can help me or give me a little advice much appreciated
  22. BuddhaShrooms

    It is time to fruit... I think ?

    Hello everyone, I am a first timer to this forum and into growing. And I am running this project as a "trial and error"-project, so there might be a few things Ive missed to do, and there probably were a few things I didnt do in the most efficient way I hope with your experience and knowledge we can get this tub fruitin'. With the help of the book "The Psilocybin Mushroom Bible" to created 2 Monotubs. The way the Monotub is created is kinda like here: The monotub with the sticker on it has a lower depth than the other one. Unfortunately I missed the part, where I needed to put a foil on top the substrate + spwan mix in the beginning. So the monotubs were chilling like in the pictures. The colonization period until now has been 8-9 days. Here are some pictures from the inside: The room temperature here was between 18-20 Celsius (about 65-69 F). Its winter here, so its damn cold outside and since in this room there is only a underfloor heating system, it is very hard to aim a good temperature. And its really expensive to aim temperatures above 70 F. Is that a problem? I am wondering, what you guys would to at this point? How do I get everything into good fruiting conditions? Since there was no foil on the substrate it since the beginning, the monotubs were having constant light. I was reading in the book, that a casing layer is not necessary. I was reading in the forum different things about casing layers, so thats one point I need to make a decision. Also.... the monotubs are designed for casing layers, right? I think I would try to do it without a casing layer the first time, but what do I know... If there are anything I missed you guys need to know in order to help here, let me know. I am really grateful for this forum and your help, cheers!
  23. After much deliberation I decided to try a monotub. I’ve been experimenting with pf tek for almost a year and making my own spore syringes and I think I’ve pretty much mastered that so the next step was natural. I’ve only ever used 1 type of cubensis, Z-strain. It’s just what was available at that time, no real thought behind it but it’s been very easy for me to get results with. I used Spelt grain and teamed that up with Daimons 50/50 tek. (Coir+Verm) Standard monotub design, black back ect. All he prep went well.... or so I thought
  24. First grow, first tub, 2nd flush GT, 60 qt.
  25. Hi, Psilocybin Spirit here. Since two months I've been getting into mycology. Recently I got all my supplies which cost me around $650 I'll be updating this post with my progress. (note: I live in a country where there are no american pc's, or at least only one sold for $300, also it's hard to get your hands on other supplies that are easy to get in America.) Supplies I gathered: - Presto 23qrt pressure cooker - A dehydrator with 8 trays, metal with temp control and a timer. - 2 bags of vermiculite - 2 bags of perlite - A little humidifier - A huge bag of coco coir - BRF spawn - A spore syringe: McKennaii - 3 63qt sterilite tubs with little wheels that elevate the tub for FAE (surface is flat) one will be used as a SGFC the other one as a mono and the third one as a SAB. - A mouthcap, scalpel, desinfectant spray, desinfectant wipes, gloves, antibacterial soap, bleach, alcohol - 2 dot its - A RH/temp meter - 20 half pint jars - a huge bin with a lid for substrate pasteurisation - 3 rolls of micropore tape - 2 boxes to use as trays in the SGFC (enough depth) - Gypsum - strainers, bowls, cutting boards etc.. the additional stuff Now I want to do a monotub first. Gonna fill 20 half pint jars with verm/brf mix and put a layer of verm on top. 5 holes in the lid for inoculation. Gonna pressure cook for 90mins and let it cool off for 24 hours. Gonna build a simple SAB with two big holes for my arms and use a damp towel with a bleach water mix and desinfect it with the spray. Wait 30 mins. Flame sterilise needle (which is already sterile but inbetween the inoculation of different jars) outside of the box just for safety as the desinfectant is flammable. Gonna use gloves, shower before, desinfect the area and clesn it and spray around with the desinfectant and let that linger for 30mins. Gonna clean the gloves with antibacterial soap and wear a mouthcap and a beanie (as I have long hair) After inoculation I'll put on micropore tape on the holes for safety. Not sure whether to put the jars in the complete dark or give them a natural cycle of light and dark. Seems to be different opinions on that. As the mycelium is colonised I'll prepare my substrate which will be Damian's 50/50 coir tek. I will also add a bit of gypsum, but how much? After getting the substrate ready per tek, I'll layer the monotub with a layer of substrate, then spawn, then substrate and so on. Or do you guys advice me to just crumble up the spawn and mix it without layering it? After that I'll store it in a huge cardboard box in the dark. At which temp should I keep my house? As soon as the substrate is colonised the fruiting process can begin. I will measure the temp and humidity with the meter. Mist and fan 3 times a day I guess? As a plan b if the humidity won't go up I have a little humidifier. Also, will I have to use the dot its if I keep the fc in a room where there will be natural light (I'll keep it at an indirect sunlight spot) Do you guys have any more suggestions, ideas, or sense a mistake in my plan? Please lmk!
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