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  1. Does anyone ever get their jars of wbs out of the PC after sitting over night and they look as if they've already been injected with Lc? I pced a couple jars last night let them sit and when I took them out this morning, I did the little shake with them and i noticed a couple of small clumps in both jars that appear to be mycelium, like when you shoot Lc into a jar it sometimes has the stringy wads of mycelium..... is it possible my jars contaminated while sitting in the PC overnight ,or is this just a normal thing that I just didnt notice before? Maybe I didnt clean the seed good enouph? Or it got to hot? I'm thinking maybe some seeds just got too hot and exploded open? Anyway here's pics if anyone can help I'd really appreciate , I've scoured the site and not found anything on this....
  2. Hello all, I currently have some quart jars that are reaching 100%. This looks like it will be my first successful run. My question is this, After all visible grain is completely colonized, do I need to wait a few days or a week to spawn to bulk? I'm trying to attach pictures, I think they will be 100% in the next few days.
  3. Just noc'd my first jars of WBS yesterday, time will tell if there's contamination. Also noc'd a jar of LC to keep things going if it works out. Started by cleaning the sunflower seeds out of the WBS. Poured boiling water into 5 gallon bucket, covered 90 minutes with towel, poured into strainer and rinsed. Put 1/4 cup coarse vermiculite in bottom of quart jars and added the WBS. Pressure cooked for 90 minutes. Made the LC with karo and water, PC for 90 mins also. Thanks for the easy to follow videos @mushzombie . Sprayed a crap load of lysol everywhere, put gloves on, soaked a paper towel in rubbing alcohol and wiped off gloves and syringe and wiped the SHIP's on each jar before injecting, also heated syringe tip until orange before each one. Glove box was not tall enough to noc the jars without leaning them on side so I opted not to use it, hope it doesn't come back to bite me. The jars of WBS and the LC are now sitting in my closet, have a tower heater set at 78, it has gotten the wbs up to 81 degrees though when it's running so I didn't want to turn it higher. Will do everything in my power to not check on these daily. These will he going into a 58 qt monotub (couldn't find 60 qt anywhere) with 50/50+ casing. I also found 80qt container that came with multiple latches and weatherstripping already on it at Target, so of course I bought it. If the LC ends up working out I'll attempt to use it to noc more WBS jars for the 80qt monotub. If it doesn't work out I do have golden teacher spore print which I will be making agar for today with malt agar extract. Also will have more syringested in the mail whenever my beginner starter pack gets here, so I could wait, but I'd rather have multiple monotubs going to keep me a little busier with any free time I have to keep my mind from wandering and thinking about my wifes cancer. One question I do have is should I wait until the jars are colonized completely to mix and pressure cook my bulk substrate? Everything at home is about to be a mess, because of my wifes cancer her parents are coming to visit and guess where they're staying???? Dun dun dun at our house. My wife already agreed to get them out of the house for the day when I need to get the pressure cooker back in action for the substrate, not sure how exactly that's going to work out, maybe spray a bunch of air freshener and open the doors before they come home? Will edit and upload pictures later, bored at work and wanted to get a head start on this.
  4. rl8857

    A+ grow log rookie attempt

    Beginning of rookie class A+ grow log with high probability of failure, contamination and spontaneous combustion, however we do press on. Now pass me the myc so I can begin this tale. I started with 6 qt dub tub in mind using strobes wbs 2.0 nsns tek. Got A+ spore syringe from SOS. Used sifting bucket (which kicked major ass, thanks strobe) loaded jars and prepared PC all while practicing sterile technique. So i had the water boiling before I added jars to PC trying to save some time which bit me in the butt because come to find out one of my jars exploded while cooking. I ended up with six jars which seem too full but nonetheless had the shit shaken out of them per the tek. Plan on noccing in two days like the tek says also. Pics of said destruction to follow, apparently uploading pictures is to much of a task for my $800 POS phone to handle right now.
  5. I just moved over my first wbs jars to bulk spawn. Cambodian. I also have 2 Cambodian LC's. 2 golden teacher LC's. 5 GT wbs jars about half way ready. 3 jars of hawaiin LC (didn't have wbs ready and the other syringe of hawaiin tammed, most likely from my technique as a beginner, thought I would triple my odds at success with 3 LC of it ) 7 wbs jars waiting to noc tonight after work 7 LC jars waiting to PC and noc after new spores come in (pink buffalo, Texas yellow cap, and I forgot the other cube) and also reishi and Lions Maine. Did I start way to many? From what I read I can just keep the LC cool for quite a while. I'll probably end up doing this because it was tough to even get my wife's mom out of the house for a few hours to PC bulk sub for the Cambodian monotub. Does anyone else have trouble with wanting a wide variety of cubes? I'm assuming I'll find a favorite and put all the other LC in the garage for a few months to keep cool.
  6. Ok. Absolutely first time attempt. Thought I had all my ducks in a row but I keep reading more and more on other teks. Originally, my plan was to use strobes no fail for spawn(no-brainer to me), and then saw the Tek on zombie tubs. Seems the best as far as eliminating possibility of contamination. But will these type of tubs work for Rez? If not then fine, could somebody please specify, to the most simplistic, which sub to use. I have no desire to case, but if needed... Mush appreciated
  7. Just finished pressure cooking 7 quarts of wbs, going with Str0be's WBS no fail tek, and use the 6 qt dub tubs as fruiting chambers. This site has been super helpful in figuring out everything needed to grow as well as helping me learn about mushrooms in general which tbh are really cool. THANKS YALL, Just got a few more questions before I continue... 1.For incubating the WBS jars what technique works best? My plan is to just put all the jars together in a closed box with a blanket and maybe use some kind of terrarium heating pad, any easy, cheap proven incubation methods out there? 2.How long could you let a jar sit without inoculating it, after pressure cooking it? (friend might be late on bringin me spores) 3. Also im confused with how the high temp silicone is to be used or what its purpose is? Wouldn't putting that stuff ontop of the hole you punch into the jar stop gas exchange? honestly feel really prepared, got all the shit i need, and got a really good feeling about this first grow thanks to shroomology!
  8. I set out on a quest to harvest fruits and all has gone well thus far. House is fully carpeted but I trashbagged a closet sooo, that may be working? I'm a little anxious fucker who's a crossing his fingers. I've read tons, used wbs, may use oats in the future. Pretty excited and hope all goes well. YIKES! How's everyone else's projects going?
  9. MycoTowjam420

    WBS 30% “shake”

    Lastnight I decided to go ahead and shake up my 1/2 pint jars filled 2/3 of the way with colonizing WBS. Everything was spreading great so I decided to give all 6 jars a good shake to break up and distribute the mycelium. Once finished I could barely see any white spots inside the jar because I dispersed them throughout the jar so well. Woke up this morning, and BOOM! It’s like they doubled mycelium growth overnight. Here’s some pics just for shits and gigs. One love y’all!
  10. This is going to be my third attempt, first two died in firey contamination catastrophes.. So on to the questions. 1. can perlite be substituted for vermiculite? I cannot find coarse grade verm anywhere except on the internet. 2. Is an analog hygrometer necessary? 3. When pressure cooking materials how much water should I have in the pot? 4. can I use cow manure from home depot? 5. what are the best ingredients when using wbs? Should I find a straight bag of millet? 6. Would spraying a mold stopper in my tubs before installing sub be a good idea to precombat contamination? 7. can I use organic chicken manure fertilizer in place of cmc? My first attempts I tammed out in my grain jars and then in my monotub just as I was starting to pin. Any help and answers would kick ass. This site is amazing along with all it's members. Thanks.
  11. I have waited 7-10 days after full colonization was noticed when doing cakes as this is what the Teks suggest. Is this required when colonizing WBS? I have 5 quarts going, after the shake they exploded and colonized fast then I would have ever imagined. 5 days after the shake they are 100%. Should I wait another 7-10 days like with cakes or are they ready to spawn to bulk Now? Is there any benefit or draw back to either waiting or spawning now? Few photos of the progression, before the shake, a day after the shake and now.
  12. Just a couple pics of 6, 1/2 pint jars that I knocked up with 1cc of cubensis B+ on April 26th. Wish me luck! And please let me know whatcha think or if you have any ideas I should do, orrrrrrr any mistakes I made.
  13. sneakymortar

    Second Grow

    First off, thanks for having me! I've spent hours pouring over the knowledge here. I've made some mistakes and learned some lessons. I've been focusing on documentation and adjusting as needed when I make any mistakes. I'm open to feedback on any and all of this. I did not take pictures of the WBS or Jars while colonizing so I apologize for that gap. I initially started going the way of a monotub but decided against it. I'd rather chuck 6 quarts of effort over a whole large tub. Maybe some day when I actually get things sorted and feel more confident. I used the following TeK's so thanks to those authors and everyone who commented on anything related while I was google-fu'ing Inoculated w/ MS Golden Teacher Syringe - Used 1ml per Jar / Tried and failed at my first LCs with the rest. str0bes No Fail WBS TeK-v2.0 - I learned after my first batch of Jars - 1.5 cups of wbs per quart jar as they seemed much more full once hydrated/cooked and rocked me to shake. They also were pretty slow colonizers. Out of 8 quarts of spawn I lost 2. I was probably over-cautious but I'd rather be safe then sorry. 6 Quart Dub Tub *mist And Fan* Bulk Tek - Used coir and spent coffee grounds for substrate. Mixed 3 quarts of substrate to 1 quart spawn 10 Days Incubated at 78F The first two tubs could have used more time and after popping the top I realized I didn't cut the bags down as well as I should have. It did cause problems with side pins later so I guess it's a lesson learned. If there was any fluid on the top I used paper towel to soak it up before casing it. Used 50/50 casing from this same TeK The rest turned out to be much nicer. More like this: Mist and Fan, Mist and Fan, Mist and Fan. Days of patience and then the side pins started! During this time I was doing further reading as only 2 tubs were showing much activity. Turns out I was over-misting. I began fanning a little extra on 4 not showing pinning. One tub was lost, probably again overcautious but I'd rather be safe than have any amount of green or odd color in my tubs. Didn't take pictures of it and didn't keep anything from it. Just tossed the whole thing in the garbage. On day 12 there was some visitors - I'll take what I can get right? Next Day: This is what the side pinners looked like as they came into their own Second Dub that was quick and on the side for the first flush: Focus was on keeping things habitable as possible and I only allowed indirect light for the tubs. My third tub was pretty active during this time. They kinda looked different. I did buy an MS syringe for this run so maybe there's some differences This guy was fairly thick but short. Perhaps I'm not misting correctly or something is off. They popped veils quickly. Last two tubs are flushing now and the pinsets are a little better: Quick totals First flush - Wet: 1227g Dry: TBD - In Progress Thoughts ? Pointers? I'll be building a flowhood next month - 24x24 I'm looking to grab an All American off of Ebay soon, been using a TFal Thanks for looking! TL;DR - I feel like I'm getting somewhere, heres some pictures and my experience!
  14. TheMushroom

    8 days into wbs and chill

    So I innoculated with micro spores 8 days ago and I WANT SOME MYCELIUM! I know it can take awhile for it to start up but I just wanted to show some pictures and make sure everything looks good to the people who know what they're doing. I just took these today and I noticed a little something in both of my wettest jars. So how do I tell if it's contaminated or bad?? And also a tiny sprout in another jar pictured below. Thanks for all the input! Also how harmful is it to be moving the jars in this stage?? I haven't been shaking them but I have been taking a few out of the box to check on them and have moved the box from my closet to the cabinet on top of the fridge and back
  15. I innoculated these jars on 9/8. I feel like 4 are going really slow for some reason. Maybe they are colonizing in the middle of the jars instead of the outside? I drew lines where the myc was a couple days ago because I thought they stalled on me. What is yalls advice or thoughts. These are the "fast" ones And the slow ones Inc sitting at 78-79 constantly
  16. I've been searching these forums to find out whether I need to order pickling lime or hydrated lime for my wbs dub tub tek put together by mush zombie. I'm following it to a t and I've got everything prepared, spawn jars at 40% except for the lime. I've been warned hydrated lime (pickling lime) is way too potent and could throw off the whole grow but that is what MZ uses in his Tek. I should probably just buy a ph meter and figure it out for myself at this point, but I don't want to be stuck with a pound of useless lime. Anyone got any answer for me? PAGING MUSH ZOMBIE COME IN MUSH ZOMBIE
  17. Brad

    First grow - monotub

    I am starting my first grow and thought I would document it here. Hopefully some wisdom from the group will keep me on track. here is where I am at now.... Syringes came in (AA++, Golden Teacher, Thailand KOH) WBS soaked overnight and dry now Monotub built as per Mush Zombie monotub tek ********************* In addition to the monotub I am going to experiment with some outdoor beds. We have 3 horses and 40 rabbits providing plenty of poo and trash hay (not straw). Here is some photos of what I have going on here... first here is the clean dry bird seed the monotub now these are pictures of my resources which I would like to include into this project. I dont mind having to buy supplies or ingredients but I hope to be able to use as much waste from my regular life as possible. Mainly what Im talking about is the leftovers from the animals we have. I have seen first hand how good horse poo can do (not at this location, even though the cow pastures around me produce - i dont know why - meabe there is an antifungal in the horse food) we clean pens and stalls at least every week... these above pix are showing pretty small amounts compared to a typical cleaning - again at least once per week Below is why I want to find a way to use the rabbit poo (we have over 40 rabbits) (above) the cage was just cleaned but we get wheelbarrows full of poo out and below shows that there is no shortage of horse poo *************** So I will try to stick to known teks as much as possible, but I am ultimatly going towards using hay and poo. I think this time I might buy straw and use a known good substrate recipe (I would hate to fail completly on the first run) and at the same time do some experimenting with indoor and outdoor hay/poo subs. If there is anything any of you would like to see me try to experiment with I will give it my best. Personally I am curious about the rabbit poo. Wonder if the little balls of rabbit poo would make a grain spawn. lol gotta check my pressure cooker - it should be getting steamy by now oops an extra pic - reinforcing why i wanna use hay
  18. ok this is my first grow log, wish me luck... this grow actually started a month ago and i dont have pics of every step ive taken but i will try to fill in all the gaps as i go. i started with a ms pe syringe i used to noc 10 jars of wbs, once they colonized i used one of the jars for g2g transfers to 8 more jars and the rest were spawned to a mix of coir, verm, gypsum and a bit of lime. these are pics of the first flush...it started with a bunch of blobs and i thought i had verticillium but they cleared up and finished quite nice.
  19. I follow the soak, simmer and pc method for preparing my wbs. my question is how long do i have to noc the jars? i prepped a little more grain than i needed and i had to order more spores.
  20. I need some basic advice if somebody could help guide me. I have 4 Jars WBS all P.E strain colonizing but 1 Jar is from a different vendor then the others. From experience do you think this is ok to use since its the same strain to begin with? Thank you
  21. Hello everyone, This is my first time posting but I have been watching these forums for the last year. Never wanted to complain about an issue but I am having such a hard time getting info by browsing and googling, I figure I just go right to the source. My project has been going well since June. Soak 12 hour,Rinse cold water, simmer briefly (until I see first signs of bubbles), Stand for 1 hour to dry and steam. I make Tyvek lid jars with a self healing port and I fill the jars 3/4 from the top. PC for 1.5 hours at 15psi, sit overnight. Next day commence Inoculation. Bleach bomb, lysol and inoc. This has worked all fall no contams, no hang up. Now all the sudden with these new Syringes and new WBS I have not had any signs of Mycelium after 10-15 days of inoculation. I have done 12 Jars, each one with a different syringe. My questions. If you can help ease my heart thank you - Can WBS thats not hydrated enough due to 12 hour cold soak prevent mycelium and contams from forming altogether? - If the Spores are dead is there a way to check? Are there clear signs to determine the difference between dead spores and Poorly prepared WBS? - Some of the WBS jars look dry 1 day after Inoculation. Can this prevent colonization? - Is it common to have great success with one TEK and then out of noware have no success using same tek. the only difference being the season. It was my first attempt at mono-tubs in fall and I had 100% success rate with my own altered DOC WBS TEK and Damien 50/50 tek. So im so confused that now I cant cultivate any mycelium. Like I said the only variables to have changed was the season, syringes and WBS. Same brand just new bag Thank you again
  22. So I have a crapload of oats, and I love Str0be's no soak, no simmer bag tek. What tweaks would I need to make that tek work with oats?
  23. Hi, everyone. Would appreciate ya'll's input. I nocced these jars 26 days ago with MS syringe. Shook 'em 14 days ago when they were at 25-30%. They've recovered well but they seem to have stalled over the past 4 or 5 days. I've seen little to no growth. The bottom is especially not really colonized. I'm pretty sure I didn't shake them hard enough to get myc down there so it's slow going. Is this time frame normal? Or is there anything I should be worried about or doing at this point - I don't want to risk contamination by having them sit around. Or do they look ready to spawn to bulk? Your thoughts are appreciated. Here's pics of the front and back of the jars, a closeup of the tops of a couple of 'em and the bottoms of the jars.
  24. I got some jars in the TIT and the bottoms are not colonizing the rest of the jars look good there are 6 jars total that are like this I just took a pic of two of them. I also had one more jar put in the same time and it colonized perfect it was ready over a week ago. The are golden teacher put in 11-24. Or am I just not giving them time
  25. 1I used 5 quart wbs, gypsum soaked jars as my spawn. Substrate is coir and verm, tad bit pickling lime. ~650 g of coir, 2 quarts coarse verm, less than a half cup pickling lime. About a 1:3 ratio. It's been colonizing for 11 days now. Does it look properly/sufficiently colonized? Should i go ahead and case and give fae? I plan to use the 5050+ casing. Thanks all.
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