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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:02 AM
It is a SOAK and SIMMER tek. but I feel it takes no more time then the No soak no simmer tek and with rye IMO NSNS is a very bad idea... to get the right moisture content you must hydrate rye before you load in jars and PC.
Rye is not cheap, I get mine for $1.70 a LB. or $45 for 50 lb. but it has its benefits over other grains.
The reason I like rye as a sub:
you can just pour the 100% colonized rye in a pan( with no other sub) let grow a few days, then case it and let it run the casing and then fruit, it think this makes it simple, and you can also use it as a spawn in bulk.
Rye seems to easily let large varieties of molds and fungi grow on it, better then other grains.(it is packed with nutrition)
Things you will need
Rye seed (I use 3 lb. at a time, it fills 7 Qt jars.)
Rinse rye to get out some of the twigs and dust. Fill it will water to cover the rye by a couple of inches and sit on stove and SOAK for 12-24 hours.
Next day you put stove on High and bring to a boil, once boiling reduce to a simmer
Depending on how much rye you have you will simmer for 20 to 30 min, stirring every couple of minutes til the first rye seed burst. I believe the seed burst is a indicator of Full saturation of the Rye seed.(only a few seeds should burst , but you just saw the first). I also eat the seed as it cooks, I can tell the point at which it is full saturation. Hard to explain the texture... till you try it this way and taste as you go to get a feel, its hard to describe.
From Left to right
DRY RYE, 12-24 soak, half way thru simmer, Rye seed Burst
Once Simmered, pour in colander Rinse off with cold water to stop cooking.. let the rye sit and drain for a 1 1/2 hours I mix it up every 30 min to move trapped water to the outside to drain. when you touch the rye seed, it should not leave water on your hand.
Load the rye into your Jars and PC for 90 min at 15 PSI
Shake the Jars after you take them out of the PC, This will mix the rye that is dryer on top and wetter on rye bottom to even out moisture content (only have to shake once after PC).
Inoculate with you favorite Specimen.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:05 PM
I have personally found RGS to be inferior to WBS, and of course rye grain, or wheat berries for Cubensis. It will still work, but there is just not much substance for the robust mycelium of cubes to infest... As a result, when you spawn to bulk sub, it will require more time (if it even happens) for the desired result of a healthy, fluffy, solid white substrate for beast mode fruiting.
Nice tek write up Bro ! I have access to a bulk grain place just 7 miles from my house! I may give rye a try! I have used wheat berries before, but I mainly stick with milo and millet...maybe I'll use rye in a tub grow this season!Peace.NS
Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:14 PM
Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:52 PM
no the opposite, IME.Mexicana will do the same on RGS or WBS, but it will out perform both on Rye Grain, or Wheat berries (for sclerotia production if thats what one is into).ATL7 just doesnt care it will colonize a brick if theres some holes in it probably.
so RGS is better to use for cubensis?
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 06:18 PM
So rye grain is a totally different outcome than rye grain seed? I get confused bc a lot of sites only say rye in their teks. Is wild bird seed still better than rye grains, or do they have similar results? I haven't even touched on rye berries... don't know what they're best used for yet.. Thanks for ur clarifications MZ!
RGS is not as good as wbs that is mostly milo, or rye grains. This should not be confused with rye berries
Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:19 PM
Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:30 PM
Thanks MZ. I will stick to WBS for now and experiment with rye when I'm more well experienced
rye berries are what people refer to as rye. I have not used it because it is expensive and hard to find in my area. I think that rye berries are generally winter wheat or something like that. Squidhead would know Rye grass seed is not the same thing, but it can be used as spawn if you need to use it. You will read about mexicana, and similar sclerotia producing species eventually, and people will say "oh RGS is the best spawn for sclerotia." I disagree, wbs was much bettter for me ( I have all that RGS because I wanted to grow mexicana, and read all those dumb posts on other websites about RGS)
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